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Aaron Donaldson

Ok Amazon, normally you are fairly objective, but you fail to mention some key variables. So what does an additional 100Mbps of low latency cost (that's minimum btw to make 1000 concurrent users work). How many organizations are going to trust a single link to the cloud for 1000 users, and if we haven't migrated the server, application, file servers, etc. then our bandwidth needs will double, triple. In addition, I don't believe my soft FTE costs are fixed as shown, I've more than likely already invested in not only some of the hardware but also staff to manage. Another thing, if I've already invested in desktop and software licenses on my clients which includes my VDI access licenses.

Massimiliano Panichi

In you excel are overstimated the human costs. As a global cloud company like AWS you should consider the different costs for IT resources in the world. As an example, easy for me, if you consider Italy you should cut off 50% comparing to your full time engineer costs. Recently I have done a similar study for an on premise solution based on VMWARE VDI and the costs for user/month are less than yours. As said by Aaron I've also already invested in hardware. Anyway it is very interesting to have a solution from AWS, also to request a price dump to my suppliers. :-)

IMarkF

Ok, I'll bite. I can buy the on-premise vs. Amazon WorkSpaces comparison, and the TCO numbers. That's been done already by every existing DaaS provider. Those are the comparisons I'd like to see. A customer that's gone down the road already of comparing traditional flavors of on-prem VDI vs. DaaS would agreed to those numbers also. The more pressing question is how is Amazon WorkSpaces different from TuCloud, Rackspace, Desktone (now from VMware), or any number of Citrix Service Providers doing DaaS? We need to see how WorkSpaces compares from a management and supportability perspective, application compatibility, availability, underlying platform and technology, etc.

Martijn Lohmeijer

This is not VDI. It is Windows Desktop Experience on Remote Desktop Services (Server 2008R2 RDS even, not Server 2012).

These are NOT Windows 7 instances hosted as true VDI would be. I hate it when people sell this as VDI when it clearly isn't.

Rich Lappenbusch

$4.61 a user/month/station in bandwidth? You are either naïve or misleading cant tell which. This analysis is incorrect and flawed.

The dual links of 100+ Mbps of high quality, low latency, sub 10ms connectivity required is highly variable in price up to $3-10K a month depending on how far away you live from your nearest AMZN data center.

And then there's the issue of IF we throw down the annual committed contract for that bandwidth we have to trust we wont double our average session latency bouncing around the border routers and firewalls and what the end to end performance will be like (consider that annoying feeling you get when you are on a Skype call vs. point to point land line, you can't do it over 45 minutes)

And all this stacks up to the normal issues of AMZN uptime for any IP service which is not so good. It will be interesting to see what the SLA rebates are when I have 1,000 agents down 1 hour a quarter not taking calls and then after those rebates IF I actually saved money or not.

I'll try it and if it works I'll be the first repost but I'm not buying the TCO model at all....

cesco

Very interesting and welcomed offering, Amazon, and nice the choice of the PCoIP protocol that I'm already using for Vmware View.
I don't agree personally with the comment above: the link required is extremely dependent on the particular use case of the specific VDI implementation (ie. not as on premises desktops, but desktop supplied to external users, contractors etc..) so must be evaluated independently.

I have a question for amazon: Is it possible to know if you plan to support direct PCoIP *HARDWARE* clients connections (like wyse thin client or samsung pcoip monitors that have hardware pcoip)? thanks

Edmond Dantez

It makes financial sense that they are using Windows 2008 as the underlying operating system. This allows them to use Microsoft SPLA licensing, and allows them to avoid the Microsoft rules around Windows 7 hosting needing a dedicated Server Host per customer. This is how most cloud desktop providers operate in the public space.

Ziad Lammam

“Hi Cesco, PCoIP hardware zero clients will definitely be supported with Amazon WorkSpaces. Teradici is working with the AWS team on this and we expect to have a simple firmware update available next year that will allow any Tera2-based PCoIP zero client to connect to Amazon WorkSpaces.”

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